Tom Brady vs. Peyton Manning: Who Is The True Quarterback GOAT?

Tom Brady is widely considered the NFL GOAT (Greatest Of All Time) but is he really the greatest player?

The Patriots over the last 20 years are arguably the greatest dynasty the sport has seen but should its best player automatically be elevated to GOAT status when we know that football is the ultimate team sport?

Every other position in the sport is judged by the way the players played on the field, not the amount of rings their teams managed to accumulate.

Jerry Rice is not widely regarded as the greatest wide receiver (or player) the game has ever seen because of the amount of Super Bowl rings his team won. Rice performance on the field earned him that title.

Barry Sanders who never even played in a Super Bowl is constantly brought up in the running back GOAT debate.

Jim Brown only won a single NFL championship and we know how highly esteemed he is as a player.

Does Tom Brady performance warrant him being placed above even all other quarterbacks in the game’s history?

When we look at all the data one quarterback stands out as having a very strong argument in challenging Brady for the GOAT QB title basing it solely on their performance on the field and that is Peyton Manning.

In debates, Brady always gets the nod over Manning, the rings argument is used ad nauseam, Brady is believed to be the better player by typical NFL fans because of the amount of rings his team managed to win but who was truly the better player of the two? Let us take a comprehensive look at both players’ career so far and find out.

Brady vs. Manning By The Numbers

Yearly QB Rankings

The following are the yearly rankings each quarterback earned in key advanced analytics.

Brady Advance Statistical Rankings Year To Year:

Manning Advance Statistical Rankings Year To Year:

Elite Seasons

Each quarterback’s ranking in the previously discussed advanced analytics was averaged out and compared against their peers to develop a final ranking for every season played. Top 5 ranked years are labeled elite, this section will take a look at the amount of seasons Brady and Manning earned the elite quarterback designation.

Brady Elite Seasons Breakdown:

Top 5 (Number 1 ranked years are bold) – 11 seasons (04, 05, 07, 09, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17)

Top 10 – 4 seasons (03, 06, 13, 18)

Years as number 1 QB – 4

18 seasons played (2000 backup, 2008 injured, 20 NFL seasons if included)

Manning Elite Seasons Breakdown:

Top 5 (Number 1 ranked years are bold) – 13 seasons (99, 00, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14)

Top 10 – 2 seasons (01, 02)

Years as number 1 QB – 6

17 seasons played (2011 injured, 18 NFL seasons if included)

Brady vs. Manning By Supporting Cast

A data driven look at each player’s supporting cast.

Team Defense

Brady Team Defense Rankings:

  • 2001 – 13
  • 2002 – 14
  • 2003 – 2
  • 2004 – 7
  • 2005 – 27
  • 2006 – 7
  • 2007 – 11
  • 2008 – Injured
  • 2009 – 14
  • 2010 – 23
  • 2011 – 30
  • 2012 – 17
  • 2013 – 20
  • 2014 – 12
  • 2015 – 11
  • 2016 – 16
  • 2017 – 30
  • 2018 – 19
  • 2019 – 1

Total Average = 15.2

Manning Team Defense Rankings:

  • 1998 – 28
  • 1999 – 26
  • 2000 – 22
  • 2001 – 29
  • 2002 – 16
  • 2003 – 13
  • 2004 – 19
  • 2005 – 5
  • 2006 – 25
  • 2007 – 2
  • 2008 – 11
  • 2009 – 16
  • 2010 – 26
  • 2011 – Injured
  • 2012 – 6
  • 2013 – 15
  • 2014 – 4
  • 2015 – 1

Total Average = 15.5

Special Teams

Brady Special Team Rankings:

  • 2001 – 6
  • 2002 – 3
  • 2003 – 16
  • 2004 – 16
  • 2005 – 12
  • 2006 – 8
  • 2007 – 7
  • 2008 – Injured
  • 2009 – 12
  • 2010 – 8
  • 2011 – 5
  • 2012 – 4
  • 2013 – 2
  • 2014 – 5
  • 2015 – 4
  • 2016 – 8
  • 2017 – 3
  • 2018 – 16
  • 2019 – 11

Total Average = 8.1

Manning Special Team Rankings:

  • 1998 – 21
  • 1999 – 20
  • 2000 – 19
  • 2001 – 24
  • 2002 – 21
  • 2003 – 14
  • 2004 – 23
  • 2005 – 25
  • 2006 – 25
  • 2007 – 32
  • 2008 – 24
  • 2009 – 19
  • 2010 – 31
  • 2011 – Injured
  • 2012 – 13
  • 2013 – 21
  • 2014 – 27
  • 2015 – 14

Total Average = 21.9

Rush Offense

Brady Rush Offense Rankings:

  • 2001 – 17
  • 2002 – 14
  • 2003 – 25
  • 2004 – 4
  • 2005 – 17
  • 2006 – 8
  • 2007 – 2
  • 2008 – Injured
  • 2009 – 9
  • 2010 – 1
  • 2011 – 3
  • 2012 – 2
  • 2013 – 3
  • 2014 – 12
  • 2015 – 9
  • 2016 – 10
  • 2017 – 2
  • 2018 – 8
  • 2019 – 11

Total Average = 8.7

Manning Rush Offense Rankings:

  • 1998 – 24
  • 1999 – 18
  • 2000 – 4
  • 2001 – 11
  • 2002 – 23
  • 2003 – 23
  • 2004 – 10
  • 2005 – 8
  • 2006 – 7
  • 2007 – 6
  • 2008 – 27
  • 2009 – 20
  • 2010 – 10
  • 2011 – Injured
  • 2012 – 13
  • 2013 – 5
  • 2014 – 4
  • 2015 – 16

Total Average = 13.4

Receiving Corps

Brady Receiving Yards Leaders Year To Year (Bold = Selected to Pro Bowl):

  • 2001Troy Brown (1199), David Patten (749), Terry Glenn (204), Antowain Smith (192)
  • 2002 – Troy Brown (890), David Patten (824), Deion Branch (489), Kevin Faulk (379)
  • 2003 – Deion Branch (803), David Givens (510), Troy Brown (472), Kevin Faulk (440)
  • 2004 – David Givens (874), David Patten (800), Deion Branch (454), Daniel Graham (364)
  • 2005 – Deion Branch (998), David Givens (738), Troy Brown (466), Ben Watson (441)
  • 2006 – Reche Caldwell (760), Ben Watson (643), Troy Brown (384), Kevin Faulk (356)
  • 2007Randy Moss (1493), Wes Welker (1175), Donte Stallworth (697), Jabar Gaffney (449)
  • 2008 – Injured
  • 2009Wes Welker (1348), Randy Moss (1264), Ben Watson (404), Julian Edelman (359)
  • 2010Wes Welker (848), Deion Branch (706), Aaron Hernandez (563), Rob Gronkowski (546)
  • 2011Wes Welker (1569), Rob Gronkowski (1327), Aaron Hernandez (910), Deion Branch (702)
  • 2012Wes Welker (1354), Brandon Lloyd (911), Rob Gronkowski (790), Aaron Hernandez (483)
  • 2013 – Julian Edelman (1056), Danny Amendola (633), Rob Gronkowski (592), Aaron Dobson (519)
  • 2014Rob Gronkowski (1124), Julian Edelman (972), Brandon LaFell (953), Shane Vareen (447)
  • 2015Rob Gronkowski (1176), Julian Edelman (692), Danny Amendola (648), Brandon LaFell (515)
  • 2016 – Julian Edelman (1106), Martellus Bennett (701), Chris Hogan (680), James White (551)
  • 2017Rob Gronkowski (1084), Brandin Cooks (1082), Danny Amendola (659), Chris Hogan (439)
  • 2018 – Julian Edelman (850), James White (751), Josh Gordon (720), Rob Gronkowski (682)
  • 2019 – Julian Edelman (1117), James White (645), Phillip Dorsett (397), Jakobi Meyers (359)

11 Pro Bowlers at WR or TE in 18 seasons.

Manning Receiving Yards Leaders Year To Year (Bold = Selected to Pro Bowl):

  • 1998Marshall Faulk (908), Marvin Harrison (776), Torrance Small (681), Jerome Pathon (511)
  • 1999Marvin Harrison (1663), Edgerrin James (586), Terrence Wilkins (565), Ken Dilger (479)
  • 2000Marvin Harrison (1413), Jarome Pathon (646), Edgerrin James (594), Terrence Wilkins (569)
  • 2001Marvin Harrison (1524), Marcus Pollard (739), Reggie Wayne (345), Ken Dilger (343)
  • 2002Marvin Harrison (1722), Reggie Wayne (716), Marcus Pollard (478), Qadry Ismail (462)
  • 2003Marvin Harrison (1272), Reggie Wayne (838), Marcus Pollard (541), Troy Walters (456)
  • 2004 – Reggie Wayne (1210), Marvin Harrison (1113), Brandon Stokley (1077), Edgerrin James (483)
  • 2005Marvin Harrison (1146), Reggie Wayne (1055), Brandon Stokley (543), Dallas Clark (488)
  • 2006Marvin Harrison (1366), Reggie Wayne (1310), Ben Utecht (377), Dallas Clark (367)
  • 2007Reggie Wayne (1510), Dallas Clark (616), Anthony Gonzalez (576), Joseph Addai (364)
  • 2008Reggie Wayne (1145), Dallas Clark (848), Anthony Gonzalez (664), Marvin Harrison (636)
  • 2009Reggie Wayne (1264), Dallas Clark (1106), Pierre Garcon (765), Austin Collie (676)
  • 2010Reggie Wayne (1355), Pierre Garcon (784), Austin Collie (649), Jacob Tamme (631)
  • 2011 – Injured
  • 2012Demaryius Thomas (1434), Eric Decker (1064), Jacob Tamme (555), Brandon Stokley (544)
  • 2013Demaryius Thomas (1430), Eric Decker (1288), Julius Thomas (788), Wes Welker (778)
  • 2014Demaryius Thomas (1619), Emmanuel Sanders (1404), Julius Thomas (489), Wes Welker (464)
  • 2015 – Demaryius Thomas (1304), Emmanuel Sanders (1135), Owen Daniels (517), Jordan Norwood (207)

20 Pro Bowlers at WR or TE in 17 seasons.

Coaching

Brady Head Coaches:

Manning Head Coaches:

Brady vs. Manning By Team Results

Keep in mind the cast that surrounded each player when evaluating the results for their teams. In the playoff analysis, how did their teams do as favorites and underdogs? Should they have won more or less?

Regular Season Record

Brady Team Yearly Win Loss Record:

Overall Starter Record = 219-64

Manning Team Yearly Win Loss Record:

Overall Starter Record = 186-79

Playoff Record

Brady Team Playoff Results (Team Efficiency Rating in Parenthesis, Bold = Super Bowl Win):

  • 2001(11) – Defeated the Raiders (5) in Divisional round 16-13, defeated the Steelers (7) in Conference Championship round 24-17, defeated the Rams (1) in Super Bowl 20-17
  • 2003(4) – Defeated the Titans (3) in Divisional round 17-14, defeated the Colts (2) in Conference Championship round 24-14, defeated the Panthers (16) in Super Bowl 32-29
  • 2004(2) – Defeated the Colts (5) in Divisional round 20-3, defeated the Steelers (1) in Conference Championship round 41-27, defeated the Eagles (6) in Super Bowl 24-21
  • 2005(12) – Defeated the Jaguars (11) in Wild Card round 28-3, lost to Broncos (2) in Divisional round 27-13
  • 2006(3) – Defeated the Jets (17) in Wild Card round 37-16, defeated the Chargers (1) in Divisional round 24-21, lost to Colts (7) in Conference Championship round 38-34
  • 2007(1) – Defeated the Jaguars (3) in Divisional round 31-20, defeated the Chargers (7) in Conference Championship round 21-12, lost to Giants (15) in Super Bowl 17-14
  • 2009(1) – Lost to Ravens (4) in Wild Card round 33-14
  • 2010(1) – Lost to Jets (7) in Divisional round 28-21
  • 2011(4) – Defeated the Broncos (24) in Divisional round 45-10, defeated the Ravens (8) in Conference Championship round 23-20, lost to Giants (12) in Super Bowl 21-17
  • 2012(3) – Defeated the Texans (9) in Divisional round 41-28, lost to Ravens (10) in Conference Championship round 28-13
  • 2013(5) – Defeated the Colts (14) in Divisional round 43-22, lost to Broncos (2) in Conference Championship round 26-16
  • 2014(5) – Defeated the Ravens (4) in Divisional round 35-31, defeated the Colts (13) in Conference Championship round 45-7, defeated the Seahawks (1) in Super Bowl 28-24
  • 2015(6) – Defeated the Chiefs (5) in Divisional round 27-20, lost to Broncos (8) in Conference Championship round 20-18
  • 2016(1) – Defeated the Texans (28) in Divisional round 34-16, defeated the Steelers (4) in Conference Championship round 36-17, defeated the Falcons (3) in Super Bowl 34-28
  • 2017(6) – Defeated the Titans (18) in Divisional round 35-14, defeated the Jaguars (8) in Conference Championship round 24-20, lost to Eagles (5) in Super Bowl 41-33
  • 2018(7) – Defeated the Chargers (4) in Divisional round 41-28, defeated the Chiefs (1) in Conference Championship round 37-31, defeated the Rams (3) in Super Bowl 13-3
  • 2019(3) – Lost to Titans (10) in Wild Card round 20-13

Overall Playoff Record = 30-11

Manning Team Playoff Results (Team Efficiency Rating in Parenthesis, Bold = Super Bowl Win):

  • 1999(18) – Lost to Titans (5) in Divisional round 19-16
  • 2000(6) – Lost to Dolphins (2) in Wild Card round 23-17 in OT
  • 2002(19) – Lost to Jets (6) in Wild Card round 41-0
  • 2003(2) – Defeated the Broncos (10) in Wild Card round 41-10, defeated the Chiefs (1) in Divisional round 38-31, lost to Patriots (4) in Conference Championship round 24-14
  • 2004(5) – Defeated the Broncos (7) in Wild Card round 49-24, lost to Patriots (2) in Divisional round 20-3
  • 2005(1) – Lost to Steelers (4) in Divisional round 21-18
  • 2006(7) – Defeated the Chiefs (13) in Wild Card round 23-8, defeated the Ravens (2) in Divisional round 15-6, defeated the Patriots (3) in Conference Championship round 38-34, defeated the Bears (5) in Super Bowl 29-17
  • 2007(2) – Lost to Chargers (7) in Divisional round 28-24
  • 2008(7) – Lost to Chargers (8) in Wild Card round 23-17 in OT
  • 2009(8) – Defeated the Ravens (4) in Divisional round 20-3, defeated the Jets (9) in Conference Championship round 30-17, lost to Saints (6) in Super Bowl 31-17
  • 2010(17) – Lost to Jets (7) in Wild Card round 17-16
  • 2012(2) – Lost to Ravens (10) in Divisional round 38-35
  • 2013(2) – Defeated the Chargers (13) in Divisional round 24-17, defeated the Patriots (5) in Conference Championship round 26-16, lost to Seahawks (1) in Super Bowl 43-8
  • 2014(2) – Lost to Colts (13) in Divisional round 24-13
  • 2015(8) – Defeated the Steelers (7) in Divisional round 23-16, defeated the Patriots (6) in Conference Championship round 20-18, defeated the Panthers (4) in Super Bowl 24-10

Overall Playoff Record = 14-13

Key Insights

Performance As Favorites:

Brady led team lost game in the playoffs as favorite – 8 times = 06, 07, 09, 10, 11, 12, 15, 19

Manning led team lost game in the playoffs as favorite – 6 times = 03, 05, 07, 08, 12, 14

Team Performance Without Player:

Brady injured year team record – 2008 = 11-5 (9th rated team)

Manning injured year team record – 2011 = 2-14 (32nd rated team)

Final Thoughts

Brady has won more rings than Manning but that doesn’t give him the edge over him as the better overall player.

Manning in terms of performance on the field was the better player according to the data.

When it comes to the supporting cast Brady has the edge and does so in championships as a result.

The years each player spent on the sidelines because of injury, showed the value of each player and the strength of the supporting cast around them. Manning’s 2011 Colts went 2-14 without him, and Brady’s 2008 Patriots went 11-5 without him.

Critics will argue that “Manning had his chances to win more and he blew it,” though Brady lost more times in the playoffs with a stronger rated team than his opponent than Manning did (8 times versus 6 times; including losing to the Giants twice as overwhelming favorites in the Super Bowl).

Now it is up to you to decide who was the better player of the two with everything set on the table. Why would you pick either Brady or Manning as the better quarterback? (comment with your response)

2020 NFL Quarterback Rankings After Week 6

6 weeks of NFL games have concluded and a few surprises have emerged at the top of the quarterback position rankings, the data tells these are the top 10 quarterbacks thus far in the season:

  1. Patrick Mahomes
  2. Ryan Tannehill
  3. Derek Carr
  4. Russell Wilson
  5. Josh Allen
  6. Deshaun Watson
  7. Aaron Rodgers
  8. Justin Herbert
  9. Dak Prescott
  10. Tom Brady

Just missed cut: Drew Brees (11 – T), Jared Goff (11 – T)

New additions from last week: Tom Brady

Dropped out of rankings: Jared Goff

Here is a full breakdown (and calculations) of the rankings:

2020 NFL Quarterback Rankings After Week 5

5 weeks of NFL action are in the books, thus far the data tells these are the top 10 quarterbacks in this young season:

  1. Aaron Rodgers
  2. Patrick Mahomes
  3. Josh Allen
  4. Derek Carr
  5. Russell Wilson
  6. Ryan Tannehill
  7. Jared Goff
  8. Justin Herbert
  9. Deshaun Watson
  10. Dak Prescott

Just missed cut: Ben Roethlisberger (11)

New additions from last week: Deshaun Watson

Dropped out of rankings: Drew Brees

Here is a full breakdown (and calculations) of the rankings:

2020 NFL Quarterback Rankings After Week 4

After 4 weeks of NFL games, these are the top 10 quarterbacks through the first quarter of the season according to the data:

  1. Aaron Rodgers
  2. Josh Allen
  3. Russell Wilson
  4. Patrick Mahomes
  5. Derek Carr
  6. Jared Goff
  7. Ryan Tannehill
  8. Dak Prescott
  9. Justin Herbert
  10. Drew Brees

Just missed cut: Deshaun Watson (11)

New additions from last week: Justin Herbert

Dropped out of rankings: Jimmy Garoppolo

Here is a full breakdown (and calculations) of the rankings:

2020 NFL Quarterback Rankings After Week 3

After 3 weeks of NFL action, these are the top 10 quarterbacks thus far in the season according to the data:

  1. Russell Wilson
  2. Josh Allen
  3. Aaron Rodgers
  4. Patrick Mahomes
  5. Jared Goff
  6. Derek Carr
  7. Ryan Tannehill
  8. Jimmy Garoppolo
  9. Dak Prescott
  10. Drew Brees

Just missed the cut: Philip Rivers (11)

Here is a full breakdown (and calculations) of the rankings:

Why Philip Rivers Is A Hall Of Famer

Philip Rivers is a future hall of famer, it is a phrase that has become very polarizing of late.

In a world where attention spans and memories are short among typical football fans (and people in general), it is a “what did you do for me last play?” type of league.

Nobody is shielded from this perspective, even past players are retroactively measured by today’s standards.

“Look at Dan Marino’s passer rating, it is 86 the same as Joe Flacco, he is overrated!”

Context is lost and forgotten, favoritism is the only criteria that matters in the current era of evaluation.

In modern football circles a Super Bowl ring is used as a shielding mechanism. In what is heralded as the “ultimate team sport” one person is credited or blamed for all of the team’s successes or failures, the quarterback.

Those that are carried to the promised land by their great surrounding cast have guaranteed themselves immunity.

No amount of mediocrity or horrible play will be criticized, and past sins are washed away.

Whenever the Philip Rivers hall of fame conversation takes place, it always turns to a “he hasn’t won a ring argument”.

Rings are not the only criteria, method, or route towards the hall of fame however. Warren Moon, Dan Fouts, Jim Kelly are among those in the hall that played the position that weren’t a part of a championship team.

When this fact is brought up, fans like to claim that “Rivers is nothing but an overrated stat padder” but when we look at the actual truth, not opinions, it is clear Philip Rivers is a hall famer.

He is undeniable, no matter how the argument is sliced, and it will be very clear to all objective thinkers once we break it all down by dissecting each and every single argument.

Traditional Statistics Argument

This particular website was created pointing to the flaws of traditional statistics, though the reality is that these numbers are often used to evaluate a player’s hall of fame candidacy.

As this is a comprehensive look at Philip Rivers hall of fame case, it is important that we look closely at the data.

All Time Quarterback Statistical Rankings (Entering 2020 season)

Passing Yards – 59,271 (Ranked 6th):

  1. Drew Brees – 77,416
  2. Tom Brady – 74,571
  3. Peyton Manning – 71,940
  4. Brett Favre – 71,838
  5. Dan Marino – 61,361
  6. Philip Rivers – 59,271
  7. Eli Manning – 57,023
  8. Ben Roethlisberger – 56,545
  9. John Elway – 51,475
  10. Matt Ryan – 51,186

Touchdowns – 397 (Ranked 6th):

  1. Drew Brees – 547
  2. Tom Brady – 541
  3. Peyton Manning – 539
  4. Brett Favre – 508
  5. Dan Marino – 420
  6. Philip Rivers – 397
  7. Eli Manning – 366
  8. Aaron Rodgers – 364
  9. Ben Roethlisberger – 363
  10. Fran Tarkenton – 342

Passer Rating – 95.1 (Ranked 10th):

  1. Aaron Rodgers – 102.4
  2. Russell Wilson – 101.2
  3. Drew Brees – 98.4
  4. Tony Romo – 97.1
  5. Tom Brady – 97.0
  6. Dak Prescott – 97.0
  7. Kirk Cousins – 96.8
  8. Steve Young – 96.8
  9. Peyton Manning – 96.5
  10. Philip Rivers – 95.1

Completion Percentage – 64.7% (Ranked 9th):

  1. Drew Brees – 67.6%
  2. Kirk Cousins – 66.9%
  3. Chad Pennington – 66.0%
  4. Dak Prescott – 65.8%
  5. Kurt Warner – 65.5%
  6. Matt Ryan – 65.4%
  7. Tony Romo – 65.3%
  8. Peyton Manning – 65.3%
  9. Philip Rivers – 64.7%
  10. Aaron Rodgers – 64.6%

Wins – 123 (Ranked 9th):

  1. Tom Brady – 219
  2. Brett Favre – 186
  3. Peyton Manning – 186
  4. Drew Brees – 163
  5. John Elway – 148
  6. Dan Marino – 147
  7. Ben Roethlisberger – 144
  8. Fran Tarkenton – 124
  9. Philip Rivers – 123
  10. Johnny Unitas – 118

In every major traditional quarterback statistic, Rivers is ranked in the all time top 10. His name is above several players already in the hall of fame or those considered sure fire future hall of famers.

Based on this information, not opinion, Philip Rivers is one of the best quarterbacks the game has ever seen, and deserves the honor of hall of famer.

Performance Argument

Recency bias is very strong in sports, a players’ career is often judged on their last play. From moment to moment we see legends like Tom Brady and LeBron James hailed as GOAT and in the next overrated bums.

When players in these GOAT conversations are judged this harshly by “fans”, it’s no surprise that everyone else is as well.

Fortunately many of these athletes have a strong fan base that always come prepared with data to support their favorite players standing in history and shut down the hate.

Philip is a player without a fan base, this elevates criticism to much higher heights with no opposing side bringing up data. The Chargers move to Los Angeles essentially eliminated all of his defense team.

This lack of support allows false narratives about Philip Rivers’ career to reign supreme over the facts.

Every player’s hall of fame candidacy should be based on how he played on the field, not opinions however. Philip needs a fair look at what he has done, a real performance evaluation.

Aside from the legendary numbers in traditional statistics, Philip Rivers has played at elite levels for a long time.

224 Consecutive Starts

Since taking the starting quarterback reigns of the Chargers in 2006, Rivers has not missed a game. Playing every single contest for 14 consecutive years is not only a tremendous feat of durability but it is a major sign of consistent productivity.

In a league where the average career length is slightly above 3 years, only 3 other quarterbacks in the history of the game have started over 200 consecutive games (Rivers ranks 2nd all time).

Durability aside, this shows Philip has had to keep a high level of performance to continue to stay on the field. The NFL is not known for sentimentality, if you don’t perform, a replacement will be sought and found.

The fact that the other players in the 200 club are either in the hall of fame or considered as such with similar statistics, speaks volumes of Philip’s candidacy.

8 Time Pro Bowl Selection

The Pro Bowl is a yearly showcase of the best players in the league, and while many individuals opt out of the game thus diluting the talent pool, everyone ultimately on the field had a great year.

Philip Rivers is an 8 time pro bowler, a feat that ranks 11 (tied with Bob Griese, Joe Montana, and Aaron Rodgers) among quarterbacks. This number is higher than many players currently found in the hall of fame.

We all know the hall of fame is a place where players that played great for a long time are found, and Rivers has certainly done that.

Elite Quarterback Seasons

The argument that greatness is not enough, you need to be legendary is often used to try to discredit Philip Rivers candidacy, “He never won an MVP!” critics shout.

A big number of the quarterbacks in the hall never won the MVP award. This however is not the only measurement of elite play.

Let us take a look at our QB rankings that uses advance metrics to measure performance:

Philip Rivers in his career has had 6 seasons where he was arguably a top 3 player at the position, those years being 2008, 2009, 2010, 2013, 2017, and 2018.

He has ranked in the top 10 in other years including 2006, 2011, 2014. (For the record that is 9 total years of sustained high level quarterbacking.)

In the years 2008 and 2009, he had very strong cases for being the best quarterback in the entire league based on the data. (Pro Football Focus named him an all pro in 2009 and 2013, including their MVP in 2009. He was also awarded the 2010 NFL Alumni Player of the Year Award at Quarterback.)

It’s true he has not won the AP MVP, but his sustained level of elite play places him among elite company.

Since 1985 (players that entered the league that year to now) he ranks 6th in the amount of years of elite quarterback play, placing him above several hall of famers and current players (or recently retired) which are called hall of fame locks.

It is clear by either traditional or advanced analytics that Philip Rivers has been an elite player for a long time, that is deserving of the hall of fame jacket. The idea that he is a stat accumulator is not supported by any credible data.

Supporting Cast Argument

Critics will always find a way to try to diminish player’s even when all the information supports a players’ great play.

Philip Rivers performance on the football field is that of a hall of famer but some will still argue, “well he had LT and an amazing roster, he should have won more”.

This long sustained myth that the Chargers are an amazing organization has lived on for two decades.

It is time we put an end to this false narrative.

I understand Chargers games are not the go to selection of football fans when deciding to consume a game. This has led to the spread of this misinformation that the team is loaded with talent.

Rarely has that ever been true in reality. In fact it would be far more accurate to call the Chargers one of the worst run organizations (their horrible track record extends way into the past), and it will all become very clear once the data is dissected.

The Great Run Game Myth

“Rivers has had Tomlinson’s help for his entire career”.

Tomlinson’s final year of his prime was legendary, he was the 2006 MVP, and that has led to the strength of this myth staying power.

The belief that the Chargers rushing attack has been great is one of the biggest falsehoods held by the common NFL fan.

LT last played in the league in the 2011 season with the Jets. The last year of his Chargers career was 2009, that year the team ranked 31st in rushing (there are 32 teams in the league).

Since Philip Rivers took over the starting quarterback job, the Chargers have had more bottom 5 rushing ranked seasons, 4, than top 10 ranked seasons, 2 in total.

The teams’ rushing game has been consistently bad, providing little to no help in most seasons of Rivers’ career.

Chargers rush ranking year to year:

  • 2006 – 1
  • 2007 – 11
  • 2008 – 19
  • 2009 – 31
  • 2010 – 18
  • 2011 – 12
  • 2012 – 28
  • 2013 – 12
  • 2014 – 25
  • 2015 – 31
  • 2016 – 24
  • 2017 – 27
  • 2018 – 7
  • 2019 – 24

Talented Defense Myth

“Well the running game might be bad based on the data just presented but their defense is still the best”.

This is another lie believed by NFL fans.

The Chargers have never had a top 5 defense during the Rivers era, and in only 4 seasons did they rank in the top 10.

Compare the above figure against 8 seasons where the Chargers ranked in the bottom half of the league in team defense.

The majority of Philip’s career he has had the help of an objectively bad defense.

Chargers team defense rankings year to year:

  • 2006 – 15
  • 2007 – 6
  • 2008 – 22
  • 2009 – 23
  • 2010 – 7
  • 2011 – 29
  • 2012 – 18
  • 2013 – 32
  • 2014 – 24
  • 2015 – 28
  • 2016 – 7
  • 2017 – 12
  • 2018 – 8
  • 2019 – 21

Historically Bad Special Teams

Not even the biggest Rivers detractors dare claim the Chargers have had great special teams.

Nate Kaeding sure fooled people during his early career, consistently making kicks in the regular season.

Come playoff time though, he was arguably one of the worst kickers in playoff history. He was the opposite of Adam Vinatieri, predictable uncluth.

In the Rivers era the Chargers special teams have been mostly historically and laughably bad.

Chargers special teams rankings year to year:

  • 2006 – 3
  • 2007 – 5
  • 2008 – 12
  • 2009 – 16
  • 2010 – 32
  • 2011 – 23
  • 2012 – 8
  • 2013 – 15
  • 2014 – 23
  • 2015 – 31
  • 2016 – 29
  • 2017 – 31
  • 2018 – 25
  • 2019 – 32

GOAT Wide Receiver Corps Myth

“Well his running game, defense, and special teams might be bad but he has had the greatest receiver corps ever”.

Antonio Gates is a legend at the tight end position but having a reliable receiving weapon is not a negative and aside from Gates, the Chargers have only had 5 seasons where an actual wide receiver was selected to the pro bowl.

That is far from the riches of receiving weapons people claim that the Chargers have had.

Chargers leading wide receivers in yards year to year (Bold = Selected to Pro Bowl):

  • 2006 – Eric Parker (659), Vincent Jackson (453), Keenan McCardell (437), Malcolm Floyd (210)
  • 2007 – Vincent Jackson (623), Chris Chambers (555), Craig Davis (188), Malcolm Floyd (97)
  • 2008 – Vincent Jackson (1098), Malcolm Floyd (465), Chris Chambers (462), Legedu Naanee (64)
  • 2009Vincent Jackson (1167), Malcolm Floyd (776), Legedu Naanee (242), Chris Chambers (122)
  • 2010 – Malcolm Floyd (717), Patrick Crayton (514), Legedu Naanee (371), Seyi Ajirotutu (262)
  • 2011Vincent Jackson (1106), Malcolm Floyd (856), Vincent Brown (329), Patrick Crayton (248)
  • 2012 – Malcolm Floyd (814), Danario Alexander (658), Eddie Royal (234), Robert Meachem (207)
  • 2013 – Keenan Allen (1046), Eddie Royal (631), Vincent Brown (472), Malcolm Floyd (149)
  • 2014 – Malcolm Floyd (856), Keenan Allen (783), Eddie Royal (778), Dontrelle Inman (158)
  • 2015 – Keenan Allen (725), Malcolm Floyd (561), Steve Johnson (497), Dontrelle Inman (486)
  • 2016 – Tyrell Williams (1059), Dontrelle Inman (810), Travis Benjamin (677), Keenan Allen (63)
  • 2017Keenan Allen (1393), Tyrell Williams (728), Travis Benjamin (567), Mike Wlliams (95)
  • 2018Keenan Allen (1196), Mike Williams (664), Tyrell Williams (653), Travis Benjamin (186)
  • 2019Keenan Allen (1199), Mike Williams (1001), Dontrelle Inman (132), Andre Patton (56)

Incompetent Head Coaching

Football is the sport where coaching matters the most out of all others.

Since firing Marty Schottenheimer, the Chargers have had a series of incompetent head coaches.

Chargers head coaches during Rivers era:

  • Marty Schottenheimer – 2006 – 14-2 record in 2006 and fired. This move was followed by the hiring of Norv Turner, that should signal how bad the Chargers front office is.
  • Norv Turner – 2007 to 2012 – 58-82 overall head coaching record prior to joining the team. 56-40 record with the Chargers but don’t be confused, he remained the horrible coach he was before arriving.
  • Mike McCoy – 2013 to 2016 – New head coaching hire, 27-37 record with the club. Universally considered a bad head coach. Further cementing this has been him being fired during the first season of his next two proceeding coaching jobs.
  • Anthony Lynn – 2017 to 2019 – 1 year of coordinator experience prior to being hired as head coach. 26-22 record with the Chargers but the verdict is still out on him, his lack of preparation against the Patriots in their 2019 playoff meeting showed he still has a long way to go in order to be considered a competent head coach.

The Move To Los Angeles

The move to Los Angeles from San Diego placed another obstacle in the Chargers way toward success.

This is an obstacle no other team has previously had to face.

For 3 years (and for the foreseeable future) the Chargers have been unable to garner any kind of fan support in their new home.

The element of “home field” advantage has been completely removed. The Chargers are the only team in NFL history that essentially plays 16 away games.

Home games in Los Angeles have been filled with opposing team’s fans throughout their tenure.

Lack Of Organizational Support

Football is called the ultimate team sport.

Those not blinded by bias understand the Chargers organization from front office, coaching, and players have not provided help to their quarterback (all the evidence was put on the table, you just need to look at it) who has had a hall of fame career on the field.

Despite these roadblocks that normally derail other quarterback’s careers, Philip Rivers has not only thrived but achieved greatness against all odds.

The fact that he has had individual success, should be enough to show he is a hall of fame player.

But far more impressively he has also carried one of the worst run franchises the past 14 years to a 123-101 record during his time with the club.

Being the 9th winningest quarterback in NFL history when the data clearly demonstrates your organization failed you is no better illustration of Rivers greatness.

Hall Of Famer

No matter how the argument is sliced, when objectivity is brought into the equation, when real numbers are analyzed, a seemingly heated debate becomes an undeniable fact.

Philip Rivers is deserving of the hall of fame honor when he calls it a career.

Every lie used to try to diminish him, is easily shattered by not words but by actual data.

Let us bring credible numbers and information to these type of arguments.

People should be judged by what they did, not by hearsay.

We all ask for fair trials in the criminal justice system. We ask for an equal shot in life. We ask to be judged by our actions, not our appearance.

We want facts to be spread, and that they drown out misinformation.

Philip Rivers is a hall of famer, the data supports it. Now the question is will he be given a fair, unbiased, and honest shot at earning that yellow jacked he already deserves?

Knowing the nature of fans, it is highly unlikely they change their minds, but hopefully hall of fame voters are a little more thoughtful.